When did you start to incorporate designing objects into your architectural practice?
About 20 years ago, I tried to start designing products to support the Portuguese industry, but it just wasn't the right time. We wanted to build design objects here in Portugal and export them internationally, in part to boost the Portuguese industry and showcase this country’s strong craft heritage, however people weren't ready for it back then.
Our second, more recent attempt, happened very organically in collaboration with architect Maria Rebelo Pinto from our architecture studio who also has a strong background in interior design. We have always been designing small things out of necessity, choosing main items in spaces like beds, large sofas, tables. Our clients would then finish their homes with other items.
When collaborating with people to finalize houses, sometimes we couldn't find the right table or chair, so that's when we began designing things ourselves. Now it feels obvious to design objects, but it was never planned.
What was your first brand collaboration?
De La Espada. It was an interesting collaboration with Luis De Oliveira, especially as we have a shared vision about the future of living spaces, and how they need to evolve to adapt in accordance with people moving more often and needing to take their belongings with them. It makes less sense now to integrate built-in elements like armoires. This reflects the evolution of our work as architects as well.
It's been a rich collaboration, and in a way, our understanding of the design world has been shaped by this relationship.
How do your collaborations typically come about?
Every collaboration has a different story. Sometimes brands come to us, and sometimes we go to them because of their unique savoir faire.
For instance, De La Espada initially asked for a specific design that didn't work out, but the collaboration materialized a few years later after an ongoing exchange of ideas. With Cutipol, we actually approached them for their unique expertise. Topázio was celebrating a 150 year anniversary and asked us to create a piece for this occasion.
The watch brand Cauny recently came to us directly as they are launching a series of watches designed by architects (it is in prototype stage still).
We've already collaborated with the homeware brand Area on the design of their shops and have the desire to explore designing some pieces to be sold by them too.
As you can tell, we're becoming increasingly interested in this world.
What are your aspirations in product design?
My aspiration is to design for intimacy - to create objects that become part of people's daily rituals, things you might discover in a friend's kitchen or living room without thinking twice about them. I'm drawn to working with more mainstream brands because they have the reach to put thoughtful design into ordinary spaces.
There's something powerful about designing new archetypes - taking essential objects and refining them until they feel inevitable. Whether it's a chair, a lamp, or even technology for the home, I'm interested in things that serve a fundamental need but can be elevated through careful consideration.
Our most successful pieces emerge organically from personal encounters. The chair we developed for De La Espada was inspired partly by a 'Ply' chair by Jasper Morrison that I came across during a convent renovation. I brought it home, and it became the chair for me - the standard against which I measured all others. But then you start building on this source of inspiration - I wanted it in solid wood rather than plywood, and that simple desire led us down a completely different path. The final design bears little resemblance to Morrison's piece, yet it was born from that initial connection.
This is how we work: we combine technical understanding with emotional memory. Research informs our decisions, but so does the way an object makes us feel, the associations it carries.
I find myself changed by this work. Now when I sit down for a meal, I notice the weight of the cutlery, the curve of a glass, the proportion of a plate. It makes life richer.